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		By: Laurie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heartily concur!]]></description>
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		By: Derlin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised my last comment got through.  I got a 500 error with &quot;We control you now&quot; or something on the homepage.  Anyway, it seems fixed now.

If God is so powerful as to create a universe,  whether it took him 6 days or 6 billion is somewhat irrelevant.  The Bible says 6 days, so I believe that has some meaning, though I can&#039;t say with certainty if that&#039;s literal days or eras or what have you.  However, I think God could just as easily make a 6 day &quot;young&quot; earth as make an earth in 6 days that looks like it&#039;s billions of years old.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised my last comment got through.  I got a 500 error with &#8220;We control you now&#8221; or something on the homepage.  Anyway, it seems fixed now.</p>
<p>If God is so powerful as to create a universe,  whether it took him 6 days or 6 billion is somewhat irrelevant.  The Bible says 6 days, so I believe that has some meaning, though I can&#8217;t say with certainty if that&#8217;s literal days or eras or what have you.  However, I think God could just as easily make a 6 day &#8220;young&#8221; earth as make an earth in 6 days that looks like it&#8217;s billions of years old.</p>
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		By: Laurie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In regard to the idea that the universe was created/formed/evolved over millions of years versus a literal six-day creation, I’ve never understood if it’s about having more respect for scientific knowledge, believing God is bound by and either cannot/does not operate outside of natural laws, trusting only what can be seen and observed by the five senses, disbelief in miracles, or proving that the Bible is a document written by men that is either flawed or has been changed and is not really inspired by God.

If it’s the latter, why/how can one trust any of it?  Personally, I would not, if I thought that way.  If the Bible is a book that I can go thru and pick and choose what I will accept - then it has no authority over me, I am exercising authority over it.


Paul said there ARE things man cannot understand, because they are spiritually discerned. Does that drive the intellectuals of the world crazy - to be told they can&#039;t understand something without the help of the Holy Spirit?  Does it sound insane for Jesus to say you need to have faith like a child?  It takes humility to accept the fact that God doesn’t always tell you everything you want to know.  This is not a cop-out, it’s a fact.

Is this one of the god-of-the-gaps arguments you all are talking about?  I’ve had people confront me with arguments on a “scientific” level before, but it wouldn’t make sense to go toe-to-toe with them because the Bible was not intended to be a scientific document; its intent is to reach people on a spiritual level.  One of the things I love about it, though, is that it never changes; whereas the findings of science change quite often – what is presented as a fact today may not be one tomorrow.

Again, I don’t have anything against science per se, unless someone is trying to use it to discredit the Bible, which is the bone I have to pick with the theory of evolution.  I think people who argue the origin of life from science are not loath to take advantage of the fact that the creationist can’t easily argue it from that viewpoint, hence the condescension.

The Bible says heaven and earth will pass away, but God’s word never will.  Call it god-of-the-gaps, call it whatever you want to - science was never my thing even before I was a Christian, but I do have a passion for God’s word.  Maybe that doesn’t pass muster with some, but I’m kinda more interested in pleasing God anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regard to the idea that the universe was created/formed/evolved over millions of years versus a literal six-day creation, I’ve never understood if it’s about having more respect for scientific knowledge, believing God is bound by and either cannot/does not operate outside of natural laws, trusting only what can be seen and observed by the five senses, disbelief in miracles, or proving that the Bible is a document written by men that is either flawed or has been changed and is not really inspired by God.</p>
<p>If it’s the latter, why/how can one trust any of it?  Personally, I would not, if I thought that way.  If the Bible is a book that I can go thru and pick and choose what I will accept &#8211; then it has no authority over me, I am exercising authority over it.</p>
<p>Paul said there ARE things man cannot understand, because they are spiritually discerned. Does that drive the intellectuals of the world crazy &#8211; to be told they can&#8217;t understand something without the help of the Holy Spirit?  Does it sound insane for Jesus to say you need to have faith like a child?  It takes humility to accept the fact that God doesn’t always tell you everything you want to know.  This is not a cop-out, it’s a fact.</p>
<p>Is this one of the god-of-the-gaps arguments you all are talking about?  I’ve had people confront me with arguments on a “scientific” level before, but it wouldn’t make sense to go toe-to-toe with them because the Bible was not intended to be a scientific document; its intent is to reach people on a spiritual level.  One of the things I love about it, though, is that it never changes; whereas the findings of science change quite often – what is presented as a fact today may not be one tomorrow.</p>
<p>Again, I don’t have anything against science per se, unless someone is trying to use it to discredit the Bible, which is the bone I have to pick with the theory of evolution.  I think people who argue the origin of life from science are not loath to take advantage of the fact that the creationist can’t easily argue it from that viewpoint, hence the condescension.</p>
<p>The Bible says heaven and earth will pass away, but God’s word never will.  Call it god-of-the-gaps, call it whatever you want to &#8211; science was never my thing even before I was a Christian, but I do have a passion for God’s word.  Maybe that doesn’t pass muster with some, but I’m kinda more interested in pleasing God anyway.</p>
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		By: Derlin		</title>
		<link>https://byronharvey.com/church-of-england-apologizes-to-charles-darwin/#comment-452</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like “god-of-the-gaps”, when appropriately used.  Science cannot yet explain why matter emits gravity waves, but surely God does.  The important bit is the &quot;yet&quot;.  It might be 10 years, 100 years, or never, but it wouldn&#039;t at all surprise me if humanity eventually figures it out.  I have a problem with “god-of-the-gaps” when used as an argument that man can never understand something.  Maybe we can&#039;t, but we&#039;ll never know that for sure.  Similarly, we won&#039;t know how accurate evolution and creationism are to how things really came to be until it&#039;s too late to debate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like “god-of-the-gaps”, when appropriately used.  Science cannot yet explain why matter emits gravity waves, but surely God does.  The important bit is the &#8220;yet&#8221;.  It might be 10 years, 100 years, or never, but it wouldn&#8217;t at all surprise me if humanity eventually figures it out.  I have a problem with “god-of-the-gaps” when used as an argument that man can never understand something.  Maybe we can&#8217;t, but we&#8217;ll never know that for sure.  Similarly, we won&#8217;t know how accurate evolution and creationism are to how things really came to be until it&#8217;s too late to debate.</p>
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		By: Laurie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Message to Dr. Malcolm Brown:

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.  Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God.  In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.  For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day.  Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”  Ex. 20:8

This was a law that God gave to His chosen people which, if broken, was punishable by death.  Would a God Who claims to have impeccable integrity base this law on a false claim about Himself?  Moses brought down a tablet of stone on which he claimed God wrote His commandments; was he lying?

Dr. Brown, if you believe God or Moses is capable of this kind of deception, you should leave the Bible alone and go find something else to believe.  If you respect and believe in the integrity of Charles Darwin more than you do the Bible, you should reconsider what you’re doing in the church.

I believe you owe God, and His church, an apology for holding the theory of evolution in higher esteem than you do God’s Word.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message to Dr. Malcolm Brown:</p>
<p>“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.  Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God.  In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.  For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day.  Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”  Ex. 20:8</p>
<p>This was a law that God gave to His chosen people which, if broken, was punishable by death.  Would a God Who claims to have impeccable integrity base this law on a false claim about Himself?  Moses brought down a tablet of stone on which he claimed God wrote His commandments; was he lying?</p>
<p>Dr. Brown, if you believe God or Moses is capable of this kind of deception, you should leave the Bible alone and go find something else to believe.  If you respect and believe in the integrity of Charles Darwin more than you do the Bible, you should reconsider what you’re doing in the church.</p>
<p>I believe you owe God, and His church, an apology for holding the theory of evolution in higher esteem than you do God’s Word.</p>
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